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By 汤嘉惠 老师 2023-11-15 1826次浏览

Please share your understanding of these two sentences in paragraph 17and try to analyze their correlation: (1) “If I were not Alexander, I should be Diogenes.” (2) “...of all men then alive in the world only Alexander the conqueror and Diogenes the beggar were free." 

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  • 82220304陈昱含 2023-11-15

    (1)As a king, Alexander had a duty to rule and protect Greece. As a missionary and a philosopher, Diogenes had the purpose of spreading doctrine. While Alexander pursued external conquest to achieve greatness, Diogenes saw inner contentment and self-sufficiency as the ultimate goal. Despite their different identities, they have their own pursuit.  They knew what they really wanted. Maybe that's why Alexander said it.

    (2)In Alexander's view, he was free because he has absolute power and Diogenes was free because he didn't need any power.

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  • 82220302陈雅典 2023-11-15

    1. In my opinion, Alexander and Diogenes are two kinds of ultimate extreme in different light.  Alexander who is not only a monarch, but also is a great thinker. His responsibility or mission is not confined to conquer the land, but rebuild the new environment in his ways. He takes all factors into consideration. Diogenes has no representative identity towards the people. His missionary is simple and endeavors to use his doctrine or power to those who are willing to change, just one person.

    2. Followed by the paragraph, the man who truly alive in the world must have their own independence which is called spiritual freedom. They have their aboslute power in different direction. From Alexander's perspective, he has unprecedent power and knows what is wrong and right, so does Diogenes.

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  • 82220329徐国芳 2023-11-16

    1.Alexander thought Diogenes was free and independent. Like himself, Diogenes also had clear goals(resatmp the currency,change human value), and he was a real person. Diogenes was the founder of the Cynicism, he reject social conventios, live in nature. Alexander can understand Cynicism, even  I think Alexander admired he, so Alexander called upon he.So Alexander said that.

    2.Alexander was the conquerorof Greece, the Macedonian king, he had power, servants, expensive clothes, a big house. Every person greet him for promotion and so on. So Alexander was free. Diogenes was the founder of the Cynicism, he live in nature, reject social conventions. He had only a blanket and nothing else, but he didn't care. The most important point I think is that they both have a clear goal in life. So they are free.

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  • 82220326王鑫 2023-11-16

    1.For Alexander, being a monarch meant he had to know how to govern and love his people. He is kind and has a strong will. The cynicism of Diogenes pursues a true value of life based on the abandonment of material desires. This idea advocates the pursuit of nature and the emphasis on the inner world. Although the two men differ greatly in status, they both have their own sense of justice and the same concept of governance.

    2.As Alexander said, if I were not Alexander I would be Diogenes, and the two men are in agreement about the value of the individual. They both stood for a spiritual freedom that was free of the social activities that could be conveyed to the citizens of the time. Alexander wanted to break the dark and decadent rule of the time and give the citizens real freedom, and this view happened to coincide with Diogenes.

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  • 82220437张雨婷 2023-11-16

    The first sentence shows Alexander's approval of Diogenes's idea. If he were not the monarch of a country, he would choose to pursue an ideal and free life like Diogenes. The second sentence is an appreciation of two characters and a satire on the society at that time. Alexander and Diogenes were both people with their own ideals and pursuits. They are not people stuck in old customs, people who worship freedom and have lofty character. Both words are a tribute to the ideas of Diogenes, who was not trapped in the old customs, and pursued a free life.
     

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  • 82220307董潞瑶 2023-11-16

    First of all, Alexander and Diogenes were philosophers. Second, both men share the same philosophy, and both are cynics. In the end, both men also aimed to help humanity, and Alexander helped people politically by ruling the country. Diogenes, though a beggar, has been preaching his ideas to people, even using himself as an example. It's about helping people in their minds.

    The question that both men are free is mainly in the right to draw, two people are two different aspects. Alexander had this absolute power, whereas Diogenes had no need of power. Neither is tempted by material things and becomes a slave to them.

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  • 82220411林露露 2023-11-16

    (1)Alexander and Diogenes had similar goals in life, Alexander's goal was to change people's lives, Diogenes was to change people's minds. Alexander was born into an imperial family, so the way he achieved his goals in life was through the army and politics, while Diogenes was born poor, so he spread his ideas by example. If Alexander had been born like Diogenes, he would have lived a cool life because of his yearning for freedom, the same or simple life of Diogenes.

    (2)Life here is not physical, but mental and spiritual. In this world, only Alexander and Diogenes live in order to achieve their purpose in life - to change people - others are "living" in pursuit of money, status, sexuality, power, etc.

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  • 82220422孙念 2023-11-16

    Alexander was the king of Macedon, the conqueror of Greece. He has absolute power,countless wealth and loyal people. But Diogenes had no property, only a broken cask and a garment to wrap himself in. If Alexander had not had such a supreme status and position, he might have lived like Dogenes, penniless and adrift, and may be thrown at pebbles. But maybe Alexaxnder didn't think it bad and will choose a life like Dogenes.

    Alexander's power set him free, and he had acquired almost everything in the world. He can do anything he want.    Dogenes had no rights ,no money and he didn't care about these. The only thing he cared about was his doctrine.                  So they are turly free.

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  • 82220427魏静 2023-11-16

    only Alexander and Diogenes are the citizen of the world. They knew what they really wanted to pursue. However,due to Alexander possess the wealth, power and social status, he was well respected and honored. On the contrary,Diogenes  went for natural and non-material life,amused by the public.

    Only them two were the citizen of the world. They were free. They know what they were pursuing,instead of being controlled by the convention.

     

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  • 82220333易枫樱 2023-11-16

    (1)They have the similar missions to help the human beings not only to achieve their own goals. They have a spiritual connection. So if Alexander had not had a privileged background, he would have chosen to be a person like Diogenes.

    (2)Alexander owned everything and could do everything he wanted to do. Diogenes owned nothing but he had nothing to pursue.

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  • 82220331荀亦静 2023-11-16

    (1) Alexander, the king of Macedon, had the supreme power of mankind, but his mission was to make life better for his people. The beggar Diogenes had nothing, but he wanted to spread his cynicism to human beings, to help them find the true value, to live a better life, this is his mission. So they all share the same desire to help humanity, and it makes no difference for Alexander to be Alexander or Diogenes.
    (2) Alexander had the highest power and the greatest wealth to do as he pleased, so he was free. Diogenes had nothing and wanted nothing, so he lived in a free life too.

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  • 82220424孙烨 2023-11-16

    1、Alexander believes that everyone has a different way of life due to different life backgrounds, and he admires Diogenes' sober cognition and high philosophical attains, believing that he has achieved unlimited freedom in his own world. It also shows his respect for philosophical doctrines.
    2、Alexander and Diogenes were both famous figures in Greece at that time. Despite the vast differences in their lifestyles and social status, they both have significant influence in their respective worlds. As king, Alexander worked to strengthen his country and protect the Greek city-states. As a philosopher and missionary, Diogenes' goal in life was to spread and develop his own theories. They all have a clear goal, they all make a difference in their own field, they are not bound, so they are free.

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  • 82220421苏琦 2023-11-16

    1、This statement is a bit contradictory, but Alexander can understand cynicism that others cannot understand. Alexander had what people valued, power, fame, wealth. While others are only trying for their own interests, he is working for the good of humanity. He worshipped Diogenes' pursuit, not letting utilitarianism get in the way of life, not letting custom get in the way of nature, not letting the necessary get in the way of the necessary. He was what Diogenes called himself a "citizen of the world."

    2、I think there are two reasons for this. In their pursuit of a lifestyle, Alexander pursued to build his own empire and realize his ambitions. Diogenes pursued a way of life that was detached from the world and returned to nature, he lived a simple and simple life, refused to enjoy a life of luxury, and chose the philosophy of the Cynic school.

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  • 82220303陈雨佳 2023-11-16

    (1)Diogens and Alexander have many similarities.Firstly,Alexsanda understood the idea of cynicism because he was also a philosopher in a way.Secondly,Diogenes and Alexander were only two free men in the world.Thirdly,Diogenes and Alexander both admired Hercules and they called themselves"citizen of the world"who labored not for themselves but for the whole of the mankind.

    (2)Diogenes was free,because he had nothing that can make him sick with anxiety.He was not the slave.He had independence and free soul.Though Alexander owned everything,he did not lost the true value.Alexander was not trapped by material goods and had his goal that labored for the whole of mankind like Diogenes.

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  • 82220327王义皓 2023-11-16

    For whoever he is, he is essentially a seeker, and what he and Diogenes seek is to a certain extent similar. Whether he's Alexander or Diogenes they're essentially the same person. They are all free, they are free to pursue what they desire, they are not influenced by foreign things.

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  • 82220415乔雨悦 2023-11-16

    1. They are the same kind of people. Their purposes is similar to change people. One want to change people's minds, beliefs and thoughts, the other want to change people's lives. They're free and open mind. They're both the citizens of the world. They have same value.

    2. Alexander thought that he was free because he had absolute power and Diogenes was free because he didn't need any power. Both of them can do what they want.

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  • 82220417邱霞 2023-11-16

    1.Alexander, as the king of Macedon and conqueror of Greece, had his own mission and responsibility, that is to lead his people to a better life, but he also understood the cynicism of Diogenes, who were striving to change mankind.

    2.Alexander and Diogenes were citizens of the world.They are free. They had their own pursuits and they did not shy away from the difficult road ahead.They fought for the great cause of mankind.

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  • 82220431徐佳仪 2023-11-16

    (1)First, Diogenes and Alexander are both philosophers.  They have the similar philosophy and goals of life which both want to change people's life. Although they have different lifestyle and status, they can convert to each other if they want to do so.

    (2)All men then alive in the world are trapped by what exist in the world. They can't live like Diogenes as a beggar because they can't abandon their possessions. They can't live like Alexander as a thinking monarch because they can't control themselves very well. They just live to meet their needs materially, not spiritually. They can't change their values without Diogenes and Alexander.

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  • 82220425王珊珊 2023-11-16

    (1) Alexander was a monarch, he ruled the country, he was responsible for his people, but Diogenes he had no power in his hands, only to pursue his own spiritual world, I think Alexander was also a little envious of Diogenes's freedom.

    (2) Alexander had the highest power and could do as he pleased, while Diogenes had no power, but he was spiritually rich and spiritually free.

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  • 82220419沈淑仪 2023-11-16

    (1)In my opinion, Diogenes and Alexander are both philosophers. They share similar philosophy and understand what they want to get. Alexander can understand Cynicism. They want to help people live a better life and know the value of life. 

    (2)Alexander is free because he has the power to satisfy people's needs. Diogenes is free because he doesn't have any of those desires. So they are not the slave of social conventions and material life.

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  • 82220430童元媛 2023-11-16

    1. Diogenes and Alexander were both cynics. Though their status were different, they had the same aims, to restamp the currency. Alexander was the emperor who ruled the country. If he had not been the emperor, he would have chosen the same way to advocate cynicism as Diogenes.

    2. Alexander, the emperor of country, had absolute power, whereas Diogenes had no need of power. Neither of them is possessed by material things. They are both spiritually free and independent.

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  • 82220410李蕴哲 2023-11-16

    1.Alexander thought that although Diogenes didn't have the same status with him, Diogenes and he were both a great thinker.They both were free.They all have their personal life aims and both were world citizens.We can see that Alexander considered Diogenes as his example and followed his step.

    2.Diogenes was a man of strong conviction and has the strength of holding onto his personal opinion,and his aim was to change people's values.Alexander was a man full of good qualities such as brave,resourceful,compassionate and so on.Other ordinary people just cared about their fortune and wealth.Only Diogenes and Alexander sincerely persued peaceful life of Greece and were"citizen of the world".

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  • 82220432徐文文 2023-11-16

    (1)First, Alexander was a king, he had strong power. Everyone in the country admired and respected him. So, in that way,Alexander was free.He can do everything that he wanted. Diogenes was a begger, he expounded his doctrine"Cynicism" and possessed nothing. Nothing can disturb him, he can lived happily. Second, Alexander and Diogenes were thinker. They had the same ultimate goals. Thirdly,because of different born,they have different destinies, if Alexander was poor, he would live like the Diogenes's did. 
    (2)Because both of them were free in spirit. They had the same ultimate goals--be the world citizen and change human's values. 

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  • 82220435张晴晴 2023-11-16

    (1)Alexander would say such things because he was similar in some ways, and Alexander understood cynicism because he was also a philosopher to a certain extent. And Diogenes and Alexander are the only two free men in the world. In addition to this, Diogenes and Alexander called themselves "citizens of the world" and they were both fighting for human development.

    (2)It is said that Alexander is free because he has all the power in his hands, he knows exactly what to do, he has his own goals. For Diogenes, he was also free because he had no power and nothing outside of him.

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  • 82220428文静静 2023-11-16

    (1)They are in different positions. Alexander is a king with supreme power, fame and wealth, while Diogenes is a cynical philosopher who is not bound by these things. Different positions lead them to see things from different angles, but at the same time they are both citizens of the world and have their own pursuits.

    (2)Their true free men now knew exactly what they wanted, Alexander had money and power and was not affected by them, Diogenes had his mind and did not care about them. They have their own goals and are not bound by them.

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  • 82220414毛乐瑶 2023-11-16

    The first sentence I think Alexander thought that he and Diogenes were the same, that they were both a free man with common opinions and aspirations, that Alexander understood cynicism, and that their pursuits were identical. In the second sentence, Alexander said that he was free because he had a lot of power, and he could do what he wanted; Diogenes, on the other hand, does not need any power; he is free. Both of these lines reflect that Alexander and Diogenes were free, that they both understood cynicism, that they abandoned material comforts and sensual pleasures. 

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  • 82220325王姝童 2023-11-16

    1、Alexander and Diogenes are the same kind of people, they are the only two people in society who have a clear goal, Alexander wanted to rule and govern a strong empire, Diogenes wanted to change people's values, in a way they have the same purpose, so Alexander would say this.

    2、Both of them had spiritually free, and while others, driven by houses, clothes, wealth, horses, servants, etc., sold their independence, Alexander and Diogenes were able to maintain their original intentions and pursue their respective goals.

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  • 82220319沈莉 2023-11-16

    1.I think Alexander and Diogenes are two extremes in different senses. Alexander is a monarch who needs to conquer the land and plan for the future of humanity. And Diogenes' power was little to change the land. He can only change those who are willing to change. 2. The person who really lives in the world must be independent, Alexander has absolute power, he is independent in various aspects such as spirit, wealth, etc. Diogenes does not have absolute power, but when others are busy with money, power, he is not bound by power, he is not bound by things outside of him. He is also independent and free.

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  • 朱彤82220340 2023-11-16

    (1) In my opinion, Alexander, as an emperor, has the supreme power, the duty of protecting the people, expanding the territory, and making his country prosperous and strong, which is his ultimate goal as an emperor and the proof of his greatness.

    (2) As a philosopher, Diogenensi uses his own practice to spread his own philosophy. In the eyes of the world, he is a madman and a beggar, but he has his own goals in life and strives for faith.

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  • 82220402常锦秀 2023-11-16

    1. They have similarities: both they were great thinkers, have life aims, were citizens of the world admiring the heroic figure, both were free. 

    2. Alexander was free because he was the conqueor, who has the power to govern eveything. Diogenes was free because he just a begger, he had no power .He didn't devote himself to pursure something meaningless, like the career, treasure. He could live naturally, without conventions.

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